polapragada
09-14 12:14 PM
On you are so wrong. PD porting is legal, and there is nothing unethical about it. The only thing we need to put a cork on is to your brain, which, along with the surrounding matter, currently is in the part which expels bodily waste.
If Substution labor was ethical, PD porting from EB3 to EB2 is ethical.
Ithink PD Porting might be legal at this time but not ETHICAL.
If Substution labor was ethical, PD porting from EB3 to EB2 is ethical.
Ithink PD Porting might be legal at this time but not ETHICAL.
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SDdesi
08-12 01:15 PM
My wife works in a company where a good number of IT folks are staffed by INFY. The poor quality of work made the company think about not extending INFY's contract. But then it came out in the open that there was no documentation on how the applications were built, etc. INFY got wind of this, and now they have positioned themselves in the organization where without them, this company's IT would collapse.
There are many such stories of outsourcing firms that are holding client companies hostage. Though I do not agree with the bill, I think the bill brings back some ethics into play. Especially the L1 loophole.
I squarely blame it on the company for not requiring INFY to document everything. There is such a thing as process or quality control. They have painted themselves into a corner. Having said that, companies will take advantage of this situation. Its just plain business...
There are many such stories of outsourcing firms that are holding client companies hostage. Though I do not agree with the bill, I think the bill brings back some ethics into play. Especially the L1 loophole.
I squarely blame it on the company for not requiring INFY to document everything. There is such a thing as process or quality control. They have painted themselves into a corner. Having said that, companies will take advantage of this situation. Its just plain business...
sparuthi
08-13 05:02 PM
Yes. It may help, but EB3 is not the one who is going to get any piece out of it, as EB2 is increasing in huge amount. Even if it is CURRENT for 10 years, thats not going to help anyone below that level as everyone will qualify for EB2 in future, almost all the future candidates will have minimum of 5 years experience.
Well, if one decided to continue the process of waiting, there won't be any career to talk about at the end.
Not possible for all to go to EB2 as most of the companies hesitate to spend huge amount again and same is applicable to the individual too. It may not be worth at the end to spend another 5K on this. Well said, we should then fight with our own friends (because they may not like us to get the Lion's share) before going to DOS and USCIS.
I am waking up from 'abroad' dream. The real dream in front is "Home", without any issue that works for me.
For EB3 i think there are 3 opportunities.. one pastures are turning green near home and India is not a bad place to be at this time ( i have heard salaries of 30-35L being common these days). thats one.. combined with 1 if the employer agrees (assuming they have operations in india), EB3 can be in india for a year and come back on L1A in an executive/managerial position and get into EB1 (few of my friends have done this successfully)...that was 2... and the last one is try to get into EB2 in the US which can be risky as others have pointed out..
so choices is there.. one has to be bold to take the step
Well, if one decided to continue the process of waiting, there won't be any career to talk about at the end.
Not possible for all to go to EB2 as most of the companies hesitate to spend huge amount again and same is applicable to the individual too. It may not be worth at the end to spend another 5K on this. Well said, we should then fight with our own friends (because they may not like us to get the Lion's share) before going to DOS and USCIS.
I am waking up from 'abroad' dream. The real dream in front is "Home", without any issue that works for me.
For EB3 i think there are 3 opportunities.. one pastures are turning green near home and India is not a bad place to be at this time ( i have heard salaries of 30-35L being common these days). thats one.. combined with 1 if the employer agrees (assuming they have operations in india), EB3 can be in india for a year and come back on L1A in an executive/managerial position and get into EB1 (few of my friends have done this successfully)...that was 2... and the last one is try to get into EB2 in the US which can be risky as others have pointed out..
so choices is there.. one has to be bold to take the step
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Libra
09-14 12:45 PM
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alterego
12-10 08:36 PM
It looks like they have heard from IV members about the spillover rules and their clarification about the QUARTERLY spillover is useful. Also them categorically stating that any spillover visas would be used in strict order of PD is reassuring. Whether they actually practice or not, it is good that they have gone on record as saying that is the way it should be.
In the past spillover was not applied in the way they are saying and EB2I suffered greatly for it.
This spillover rules if enforced will accelerate EE2I movement initially and then EB3. I suspect that by this summer EB2I folks from 2007 should be seeing some action.
In the past spillover was not applied in the way they are saying and EB2I suffered greatly for it.
This spillover rules if enforced will accelerate EE2I movement initially and then EB3. I suspect that by this summer EB2I folks from 2007 should be seeing some action.
vgayalu
06-01 09:55 AM
My PD : 10/04. I got 45 days letter in May last week as per attorney.
My attorney is Stupid . She never gives any information and says it is the property of employer( Even LIN numbers)
I don't know when they can approve my labour.
:confused:
My attorney is Stupid . She never gives any information and says it is the property of employer( Even LIN numbers)
I don't know when they can approve my labour.
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pappu
09-08 09:07 PM
Dear members,
As we enter the final week of our rally preparation we would like to thank our members that have indicated that they would be coming for the rally. We also want to thank all state chapter and action item leaders for helping us out in this massive effort. This planning, coordination and implementation cannot happen without the help of each and every member. Help has ranged from phone call campaigns, publicity campaigns, media campaigns, lawmaker meetings, banner preparations, Merchandise set up, state chapter activities, Bus initiatives, Transportation and accommodation initiatives, sponsorships, reaching out to law offices and like minded organizations etc to tasks as important as deciding the Dinner menu for the Sept 17 event.
We still have a long way to go in our planning and implementation. IV membership is working hard to make this rally a success. The Sept 17th lobby day work is being implemented at this time and lawmaker office appointments are being sought. Everyone that has indicated their presence for this event will be contacted this week. We are planning a big reception event on September 17, from 6PM to 9PM at the Cannon Building in DC. IV members, lawmakers, staffers, industry leaders and other like minded organizations are expected to attend this event. It will be a great opportunity for IV members to meet these important representatives. There is also going to be a big Press event on Sept 18th that we are planning. There are several initiatives being taken to have a big media push for the rally. The rally is in itself a huge task that requires planning from getting all police permits (which we already have) to transporting rally material, providing registration opportunity for members, getting lawmakers to address the rally to details like stage and sound system.
All this has required IV to invest heavily. We already invest almost all in our lobbying efforts and remaining little in Website maintenance till now and somehow manage to run this organization on shoestring budgets. We need about 30 thousand dollars in the next 8 days to make sure we can meet our needs and also make a big impact via this rally. This rally will most certainly bring our issues to the national center stage and help us get much needed immigration relief.
This post urges everyone to come forward and help us in this short term funding drive. If you have not contributed till now, please consider contributing. If you have got your Receipt notice/FP notice/EAD etc. then do show your admiration for our combined effort via lobbying, San Jose rally and Flower campaign that enabled everyone to file their I485s. If you have recently received your green cards, then please consider contributing as a way of celebrating and endorsing our effort.
We need help from each and every member reading this post. We will continue to post updates. Please visit IV site regularly.
Thanks
IV team
Sept 13, update.
Here is a small update on this drive. After seeing such great support and commitment from everyone, we have decided to invest in some media publicity effort. You will see a major push in this by Immigrationvoice and we all will be happy to see the kind of awareness and impact it will make on the Rally day. We have a modest budget of 11 thousand dollars for this effort added to the overall need of 30 thousand for the rally effort. Lets reach of this number (30+11= 41K) and even exceed the expectations in the next 4 days.
Sept 14 Update
Some fruits of the contributions members have made towards media and publicity work
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=13395
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=13392
We are able to do it, only because members are supporting it. More will follow until the date of the rally that will make us all proud. Thank you for your support. Pls. keep it up.
As we enter the final week of our rally preparation we would like to thank our members that have indicated that they would be coming for the rally. We also want to thank all state chapter and action item leaders for helping us out in this massive effort. This planning, coordination and implementation cannot happen without the help of each and every member. Help has ranged from phone call campaigns, publicity campaigns, media campaigns, lawmaker meetings, banner preparations, Merchandise set up, state chapter activities, Bus initiatives, Transportation and accommodation initiatives, sponsorships, reaching out to law offices and like minded organizations etc to tasks as important as deciding the Dinner menu for the Sept 17 event.
We still have a long way to go in our planning and implementation. IV membership is working hard to make this rally a success. The Sept 17th lobby day work is being implemented at this time and lawmaker office appointments are being sought. Everyone that has indicated their presence for this event will be contacted this week. We are planning a big reception event on September 17, from 6PM to 9PM at the Cannon Building in DC. IV members, lawmakers, staffers, industry leaders and other like minded organizations are expected to attend this event. It will be a great opportunity for IV members to meet these important representatives. There is also going to be a big Press event on Sept 18th that we are planning. There are several initiatives being taken to have a big media push for the rally. The rally is in itself a huge task that requires planning from getting all police permits (which we already have) to transporting rally material, providing registration opportunity for members, getting lawmakers to address the rally to details like stage and sound system.
All this has required IV to invest heavily. We already invest almost all in our lobbying efforts and remaining little in Website maintenance till now and somehow manage to run this organization on shoestring budgets. We need about 30 thousand dollars in the next 8 days to make sure we can meet our needs and also make a big impact via this rally. This rally will most certainly bring our issues to the national center stage and help us get much needed immigration relief.
This post urges everyone to come forward and help us in this short term funding drive. If you have not contributed till now, please consider contributing. If you have got your Receipt notice/FP notice/EAD etc. then do show your admiration for our combined effort via lobbying, San Jose rally and Flower campaign that enabled everyone to file their I485s. If you have recently received your green cards, then please consider contributing as a way of celebrating and endorsing our effort.
We need help from each and every member reading this post. We will continue to post updates. Please visit IV site regularly.
Thanks
IV team
Sept 13, update.
Here is a small update on this drive. After seeing such great support and commitment from everyone, we have decided to invest in some media publicity effort. You will see a major push in this by Immigrationvoice and we all will be happy to see the kind of awareness and impact it will make on the Rally day. We have a modest budget of 11 thousand dollars for this effort added to the overall need of 30 thousand for the rally effort. Lets reach of this number (30+11= 41K) and even exceed the expectations in the next 4 days.
Sept 14 Update
Some fruits of the contributions members have made towards media and publicity work
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=13395
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=13392
We are able to do it, only because members are supporting it. More will follow until the date of the rally that will make us all proud. Thank you for your support. Pls. keep it up.
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sriramkalyan
06-09 12:05 PM
i was regular contributor to IV ..I stopped it ..
My request is ..
All postings on IV should identify the user as contributing member or a Free User.
That change will help IV to increase Funding ..
I will sign up for monthly recurring to IV if I see above change ..
My request is ..
All postings on IV should identify the user as contributing member or a Free User.
That change will help IV to increase Funding ..
I will sign up for monthly recurring to IV if I see above change ..
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kiran24
08-03 10:55 PM
There is a conference call going on at SoCal IV forum Bbetween 8:00 P.M to 8:30 P.M. Please join the call if you are interested in attending a SoCal IV organized booth at an event in Southern CA.
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sri1309
08-14 10:54 AM
I would name such a fund "Visa recapture fund" or something that clearly identifies our requirement. But again, we will not be very loud if you contribute to such funds as, when compared to many others who contribute, our number is very small.
We must be able to push ourselves forward with the clear banner and express ourselves.
Sri.
We must be able to push ourselves forward with the clear banner and express ourselves.
Sri.
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nivasch
03-09 12:48 PM
Thank you so much
No. It is over. Will reconvene next Wednesday.
No. It is over. Will reconvene next Wednesday.
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americandesi
05-02 11:10 PM
what king meant was that anyone could apply for 485 and get an EAD which has no work restrictions as a H1 and enjoy the same benifits someone with a GC holds..down the line(after years of wait) even if the 485 gets rejected he/she has njoyed all the privilages or work/travel by getting his/her AP/EAD...
well damn you king, issue GCs faster then!
King's statement doesn't make any sense. If you equate the same logic to GC holders, then they had enjoyed all the privileges of work/travel by getting his/her GC, even if their naturalization gets rejected down the line.
well damn you king, issue GCs faster then!
King's statement doesn't make any sense. If you equate the same logic to GC holders, then they had enjoyed all the privileges of work/travel by getting his/her GC, even if their naturalization gets rejected down the line.
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gctoget
07-31 10:27 AM
There will be a conference call for SoCal IV members on August 7th,2007 at 8:00 P.M.
Please join SoCal IV yahoogroup for more info.
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Please join SoCal IV yahoogroup for more info.
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unseenguy
02-11 01:22 AM
OMG , what an utterly disgusting attitude !!! and on top of it, you are trying to "summarize" ???
I tried to stop myself from posting on this thread since it's based on one guy's circumstances and though I feel sorry for him ( the same way I feel sorry for all the wives and their families being extorted huge sum of money in the name of marriage ) , it's hard to judge these things knowing only one side of the story.
To each his own , but do you think your parents spent their whole lives bringing you up only to know that you think it's "legally" not right to help them monetarily ???? I guess, they should have not spent that extra money to send you to a good school/college or spend it on your tution classes and kicked you out of their house once you reach the age of 18 , like some parents do here ??? Man, it's hard for me to imagine how one can think like that about their parents.
When someone gets married they should be grown up enough to handle the money matters and put their foot down in case of any unreasonable demands, it applies to both husband and wife. The intricacies of the "Indian arranged marriage" are difficult to understand and the equations vary from case to case, so it's better not to come to a judgement and come out with something utterly nonsensical.
I'm sorry if my post is a bit rude , what rude comments beget rude reactions !
Yeah right. Your wife should cook for your parents all her life because you were sent to a good school by them.
I tried to stop myself from posting on this thread since it's based on one guy's circumstances and though I feel sorry for him ( the same way I feel sorry for all the wives and their families being extorted huge sum of money in the name of marriage ) , it's hard to judge these things knowing only one side of the story.
To each his own , but do you think your parents spent their whole lives bringing you up only to know that you think it's "legally" not right to help them monetarily ???? I guess, they should have not spent that extra money to send you to a good school/college or spend it on your tution classes and kicked you out of their house once you reach the age of 18 , like some parents do here ??? Man, it's hard for me to imagine how one can think like that about their parents.
When someone gets married they should be grown up enough to handle the money matters and put their foot down in case of any unreasonable demands, it applies to both husband and wife. The intricacies of the "Indian arranged marriage" are difficult to understand and the equations vary from case to case, so it's better not to come to a judgement and come out with something utterly nonsensical.
I'm sorry if my post is a bit rude , what rude comments beget rude reactions !
Yeah right. Your wife should cook for your parents all her life because you were sent to a good school by them.
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laksmi
01-07 03:56 PM
Work on H1 even after using AP
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=14154
Thanks
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=14154
Thanks
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akr_roy
09-09 06:46 PM
Withiin 2 hours of posting this message, late in the night we have got 8 people contributing $100 each. Thanks for the spirit. I am sure with everyone's help we will reach our target sooner and can easily commit our resources for the rally.
Hello All,
My prayers be with IV. Though I cant attend, I would want to make a contribution of $200 for the rally. Can somebody let me know an easy way to make this payment please? I dont have a paypal, googlr acct.
Thanks
regards
arghya
:)
Hello All,
My prayers be with IV. Though I cant attend, I would want to make a contribution of $200 for the rally. Can somebody let me know an easy way to make this payment please? I dont have a paypal, googlr acct.
Thanks
regards
arghya
:)
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kshitijnt
06-26 10:56 PM
America does not need to do anything to get more workers. People will keep coming and it will always be a positive flow of good talent into America. The only Indians (and others) who might tell you that they do not want to come to the USA and the American dream is gone, etc., are talking bull and they know it. They will jump on a plane "the next minute" and come if the could. It's the same thing always: Go back Yankeee.................................and take me with you."
That will never change. If it did we would not have IV forum or so many members.
Vivek I do not fully agree with you. I do agree that first timers are eager to come to America but once the game gets exposed they will have second thoughts. Why there are no takers for german green card? Or why do people apply for HSMP in more numbers than any other european country. Because atleast on the face of it, that promises a long term path. How many people will want to jump on the plane if America says there will be no green cards, how many people will be attracted to it? America wants to have it both ways, they want people here but do not want to give GCs either.
I graduated from a good college in India. My classmates are divided 50-50 in US and India. The people who are putting up here either did very well and were toppers or failures. All others stayed in India and they will come here only if there is a long term benefit to come here.
That will never change. If it did we would not have IV forum or so many members.
Vivek I do not fully agree with you. I do agree that first timers are eager to come to America but once the game gets exposed they will have second thoughts. Why there are no takers for german green card? Or why do people apply for HSMP in more numbers than any other european country. Because atleast on the face of it, that promises a long term path. How many people will want to jump on the plane if America says there will be no green cards, how many people will be attracted to it? America wants to have it both ways, they want people here but do not want to give GCs either.
I graduated from a good college in India. My classmates are divided 50-50 in US and India. The people who are putting up here either did very well and were toppers or failures. All others stayed in India and they will come here only if there is a long term benefit to come here.
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golferpete
07-01 02:14 AM
My case is certifed as of today
PD Nov 2004
RIR
Will be filing asap
PD Nov 2004
RIR
Will be filing asap
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swede
07-24 08:05 AM
Congrats to your approval!
I'm just waiting for them to start working on the 2002 cases now, since everyone who applied later already got their greencards it seems. :(
I think it is sooo unfair that someone who applied in 2005 already got a green card and taking the visa numbers when others have waited 3 or 4 more years(!) extra have to wait even longer. That is something for IV to fight for...
I'm just waiting for them to start working on the 2002 cases now, since everyone who applied later already got their greencards it seems. :(
I think it is sooo unfair that someone who applied in 2005 already got a green card and taking the visa numbers when others have waited 3 or 4 more years(!) extra have to wait even longer. That is something for IV to fight for...
gctest
09-13 04:10 PM
People, most of us here are just afraid that they will get red dots, be ridiculed for their beliefs. But the things is; If we don't fight for our rights, who will. We have to defend our place in the queue, which at the moment is at substantial risk.
Here is the form you can fill out to express support:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=pfq9i31UpaJcQdUK-1PaKcg&hl=en
View the read only document here:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pfq9i31UpaJcQdUK-1PaKcg&hl=en
I want everybody to get their GCs. but now interfiling/porting is hurting out position in the queue.
If you are not aware, a good bunch of EB3s are now trying to interfile & port their PDs which are between 2001 - 2005 to EB2.
This will potentially put tens of thousands of people in the EB2 queue before most people in EB2 who are waiting.
These people were not eligible for EB2 when they filed their own labor.. so they should NOT BE ALLOWED TO PORT THEIR OLD PDs. Sure EB3 can Interfile .. but you will get a new PD ... the date you interfile.
If we just keep looking... there will be a huge retrogression in EB2. And its not like these EB3 people will get through with the interfiling/porting. Most of them will be issued RFEs. Their labor apps will be audited and their primary EB3 apps will be cancelled. Infact, 85% of interfiling will never successfully make it through. And its not like it will help the EB3 brothers. That queue will still be long... because they are not going to withdraw their EB3 apps.
Also, while they will not succeed in interfiling/porting, they still will have their apps with USCIS and USCIS will sit on them before eventually issuing NOID. Sad part is they will count these when giving numbers to DOS for setting visa bulletins.
This PD porting is the last "not so ethical & legal" thing after labor substitution.. that we need to Put a cork on.
If we don't act now... then we can all expect to stay in AOS for the next 5 years. This holds for both EB2 and EB3.
I want everybody to get their GCs. I also am OK with the wait.
But anything that threatens my position in the queue is not acceptable.
Here is the form you can fill out to express support:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=pfq9i31UpaJcQdUK-1PaKcg&hl=en
View the read only document here:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pfq9i31UpaJcQdUK-1PaKcg&hl=en
I want everybody to get their GCs. but now interfiling/porting is hurting out position in the queue.
If you are not aware, a good bunch of EB3s are now trying to interfile & port their PDs which are between 2001 - 2005 to EB2.
This will potentially put tens of thousands of people in the EB2 queue before most people in EB2 who are waiting.
These people were not eligible for EB2 when they filed their own labor.. so they should NOT BE ALLOWED TO PORT THEIR OLD PDs. Sure EB3 can Interfile .. but you will get a new PD ... the date you interfile.
If we just keep looking... there will be a huge retrogression in EB2. And its not like these EB3 people will get through with the interfiling/porting. Most of them will be issued RFEs. Their labor apps will be audited and their primary EB3 apps will be cancelled. Infact, 85% of interfiling will never successfully make it through. And its not like it will help the EB3 brothers. That queue will still be long... because they are not going to withdraw their EB3 apps.
Also, while they will not succeed in interfiling/porting, they still will have their apps with USCIS and USCIS will sit on them before eventually issuing NOID. Sad part is they will count these when giving numbers to DOS for setting visa bulletins.
This PD porting is the last "not so ethical & legal" thing after labor substitution.. that we need to Put a cork on.
If we don't act now... then we can all expect to stay in AOS for the next 5 years. This holds for both EB2 and EB3.
I want everybody to get their GCs. I also am OK with the wait.
But anything that threatens my position in the queue is not acceptable.
Green.Tech
06-22 08:18 PM
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